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  • 2018 All-Stars Off-Season News

    http://www.allstarsprint.com/downloa....aspx?i=419323 <For the full version please follow this link, I'm going to hit what I believe are the high points.

    -Florida races will NOT be points races.
    -Florida races will have a $10k point fund for series members only (so like a speedweek fund) to entice members to come
    -Tiered towing package 1-5 $300, 6-10 $250, 11-12 $200, 13+ $100
    -Top 5 ASCoC drivers in the feature will receive an additional $100 in tow money for the event.
    -Purse: 1st $50k, 2nd $35k, 3rd $25k, 4th $20k, 5th $15, 6th $10k, 7th $9k, 8th $7.5k, 9th $6k, 10th $5k (decreases by $500 through position 15)
    -Format changes: Two fastest qualifiers who don't transfer through heat will start in positions 1 and 2 in the B main. The rest of the B/C/D mains will be lined up by heat race finish!!!!

    MY THOUGHTS
    Holy sh*t the one format change I thought they needed to do they did. I never even thought about locking in the fastest qualifiers to the front row of the B but that is SUCH a better idea then locking into dash. Make them race to get in if they wad it up in heat. Lining up by heat race finish will make the battles in the back of the pack really truly mean something. Secondly, awesome decision to take the ASCoC FL sanctioned races back off of points and instead offer an enticing point fund for series drivers to entice them to come if they so choose. Finally, the purse is much improved IMO and I really like the extra tow money based on finish position, rewarding drivers who have a good night.

    What's everybody elses thoughts. Again PLEASE click and read the link. There is quite a bit of info I didn't include, just what I felt was the most pertinent information.


  • #2
    Millstream speedway hosts the ascoc speedweek for 10k. Should be fun.

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    • #3
      Hoping for the best as I'll probably be living about 20 minutes north. But, they REALLY need bathrooms if they're to successfully pull off this event. Certainly wish all goes well! Although I really would've liked to see this race at mansfield personally but still.

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      • #4
        yea I wont be at millstream and the allstars not going to Mansfield really sucks for the fans since its right in the middle of all the speedweek tracks. makes no sense but I don't think Mansfield needs the allstars or vice versa. Both will thrive this year.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by mdr4774 View Post
          Millstream speedway hosts the ascoc speedweek for 10k. Should be fun.
          Think Helms will and can do a great job at Millstream. Good to see the $10,000 to win is back and wish more of the speedweek shows would offer more than the normal show top prize/purse.

          The biggest issue of course with Millstream is the owners of the property, but for the promoter it is starting on time and being able to finish at a decent hour.

          Really like the 2 weekends where they have Attica (Fri), Wayne County (Sat) and Millstream (Sun). Missed those type of events which they use to happen all the time with the All-Stars in this area, but usually with 1 different track (Fremont on Sat). Glad to see it back that way which should help bring in a lot of fans and possibly some invaders for those 3 big races.

          Originally posted by mudinmybeer View Post
          yea I wont be at millstream and the allstars not going to Mansfield really sucks for the fans since its right in the middle of all the speedweek tracks. makes no sense but I don't think Mansfield needs the allstars or vice versa. Both will thrive this year.
          Politics on both sides.

          Let's hope Mansfield has worked out all their issues before these bigger events happen in 2018. I understand the owner wants to be "big-time" and all, but thought one solid year of getting all the bugs worked out or at least part of 2018 started would have helped. Jumping right in to the big weekend at the end of April seems risky for a big-time event. Let's hope weather along with track fixing a lot of their mistakes happen in 2018 and beyond.

          Some of the better shows at Mansfield were indeed when the All-Stars were there and ran the shows.

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          • #6
            Yes the all star staff made the show much smoother. The Mansfield pit staff needs gone and new team put in place. Would like to see some of the wcs staff there.
            Was disappointed with the fast show as the fast staff did not live up to trained organized workers.
            Actually fast seemed unable to handle a show of that magnitude which was disappointing and did not much benefit Mansfield.
            I think Mansfield would gain ground not to have fast back.

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            • #7
              The allstar shows were only smoother because they didn't have 140 cars that needed bump started with 3 different divisions. Its the track configuration not whos running the pits.

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              • #8
                Originally posted by mudinmybeer View Post
                The allstar shows were only smoother because they didn't have 140 cars that needed bump started with 3 different divisions. Its the track configuration not whos running the pits.
                It had nothing to do with car count. The Allstars knew what to do and how to line cars up. FAST didn’t have a clue wtf they were trying to do at just about every show they had outside Attica and Fremont. Mansfield staff isn’t much better.

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                • #9
                  Im watching from the stands and all I seen was the fourwheelers pushing the cars out on the track and all the way around to the opening in turn 1 and 2. I guess the allstar officials could have better people but it still wasn't noticeably smoother to me other then the fact the last allstar show had no support divisions and still a long delay. I think even if the allstar officials were at the great lake nationals it still wouldn't of been over much more sooner then it was because of the track configuration.

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                  • #10
                    Im with Mud in Beer. That pushing all the cars around the track caused 7-10 minute delays between every racea at Mansfield. push em out from the track entrance three wide and fire em all from there, Tell the Quads to get to the infield or out the back as quick as possible. That show could have been done at midnight, Not three am

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by GTigers55 View Post
                      http://www.allstarsprint.com/downloa....aspx?i=419323 <For the full version please follow this link, I'm going to hit what I believe are the high points.

                      -Florida races will NOT be points races.
                      -Florida races will have a $10k point fund for series members only (so like a speedweek fund) to entice members to come
                      -Tiered towing package 1-5 $300, 6-10 $250, 11-12 $200, 13+ $100
                      -Top 5 ASCoC drivers in the feature will receive an additional $100 in tow money for the event.
                      -Purse: 1st $50k, 2nd $35k, 3rd $25k, 4th $20k, 5th $15, 6th $10k, 7th $9k, 8th $7.5k, 9th $6k, 10th $5k (decreases by $500 through position 15)
                      -Format changes: Two fastest qualifiers who don't transfer through heat will start in positions 1 and 2 in the B main. The rest of the B/C/D mains will be lined up by heat race finish!!!!

                      MY THOUGHTS
                      Holy sh*t the one format change I thought they needed to do they did. I never even thought about locking in the fastest qualifiers to the front row of the B but that is SUCH a better idea then locking into dash. Make them race to get in if they wad it up in heat. Lining up by heat race finish will make the battles in the back of the pack really truly mean something. Secondly, awesome decision to take the ASCoC FL sanctioned races back off of points and instead offer an enticing point fund for series drivers to entice them to come if they so choose. Finally, the purse is much improved IMO and I really like the extra tow money based on finish position, rewarding drivers who have a good night.

                      What's everybody elses thoughts. Again PLEASE click and read the link. There is quite a bit of info I didn't include, just what I felt was the most pertinent information.
                      Couldn't get the link to work for me ... few thoughts.

                      I like the changes ... They most be expecting 15 or more teams with how they got things set up?

                      Think the Florida deal is a good deal now not being points and added money for the All-Star guys to make a few extra bucks not only for traveling so far, but also the stiffer competition as well with the WoO, PA, Knoxville, etc... running those shows as well.

                      I like the tow package as well ... the better you race point-wise the more money you get for the next race.

                      Point fund purse was needed for sure especially with the extra long trips this you with the Knoxville weekend, NY weekend, Wisconsin/IRA weekend, and of course the several PA trips. Think they are trying to branch out a little bit to try and get some further competitors to bite or race a lot more with them such as Danny Dietrich who seems to be running a lot of All-Star races this year and not staying home on Friday nights.

                      Like when they make the heat races matter and that is how they base the mains on as well. I always liked the Kings Royal format with forcing teams to race hard in the heats and making every spot matter.

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                      • #12
                        I hope the ascoc can lure some teams to follow that aren't from ohio/western,pa since there on the road going farther and more often which is like taking our top traveling teams out of our area and keeping them away. Sucks for the fans here. It would make the ascoc shows here better to go along with our other local shows and could open the door for the fast/oscs merger to travel locally and get a lot of support and really turn into something. Kind of hope rich farmer does have his hand in buying the oscs with that intention of putting these smaller traveling series under one brand and running closer. See what happens.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by mudinmybeer View Post
                          I hope the ascoc can lure some teams to follow that aren't from ohio/western,pa since there on the road going farther and more often which is like taking our top traveling teams out of our area and keeping them away. Sucks for the fans here. It would make the ascoc shows here better to go along with our other local shows and could open the door for the fast/oscs merger to travel locally and get a lot of support and really turn into something. Kind of hope rich farmer does have his hand in buying the oscs with that intention of putting these smaller traveling series under one brand and running closer. See what happens.
                          Funny thing is at one time fans were complaining that the All-Stars were in the area to much and wasn't making it a special event when they came around.

                          Now fans want them around a lot more ... they are still running nearly half their schedule in Ohio with 21 of the 50 (55 total races which include Florida) races in Ohio alone over 9 race weekends.

                          To me, the FAST series branched out to far the past few years going to places like Mercer and Atomic and you saw their drivers/team numbers go down. Think they would be better served traveling closer for the teams sake especially since the purse/to win prize isn't better than when they race at Attica/Fremont. They are already venturing to Sharon twice this coming year which was just announced as part of Sharon's adding more 410 races this year.

                          Would be nice if FAST (or FOD however you want to call them now) would try and make it easier for the locals by having races at Wayne County (which we know won't happen since they are direct competition for local Saturday night 410 racing), or Waynesfield, or Lima, or Mansfield, or even Millstream to keep them somewhat local 4-5 times a year and when Attica/Fremont aren't running the 410's.

                          Just not sure the OSCS will survive especially (if keeping the southern part of Ohio) with Atomic picking the 410's back up and having them quite a bit at their place. Asking guys from the southern part of the state to travel 3-4 hours is quite a bit for local teams. Doing it a couple times a year might not be bad, but asking them to do it more than that results in not many guys following the entire series. The OSCS didn't have a lot of cars follow them last year and probably because of all the traveling north to places like Attica/Fremont/Wayne County so much.

                          I personally like the old FAST where it was all about Attica/Fremont and helping those local teams with an extra point fund and more prize money/contingency's. I think in some way they would be better off going back to that and allowing their teams when Attica/Fremont aren't running to venture out to whatever tracks they want that weekend, but we know we have to keep them drivers/teams cattle them in or they might find out that other tracks are team friendly as well.

                          Think the more little series in Ohio will just keep hurting the local tracks that try and keep 410 racing local every weekend instead of becoming a special event type of racing. Also it hurts the teams/drivers because they have to do a lot more traveling which in turn means spending a lot more money and wear and tear on equipment, possibly staying overnight, etc... and not a bigger purse/prize money while doing all this extra traveling and not that big of a point fund that hasn't went up with the extra traveling.

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                          • #14
                            Originally posted by ErocWolverine View Post

                            Funny thing is at one time fans were complaining that the All-Stars were in the area to much and wasn't making it a special event when they came around.

                            Now fans want them around a lot more ... they are still running nearly half their schedule in Ohio with 21 of the 50 (55 total races which include Florida) races in Ohio alone over 9 race weekends.

                            To me, the FAST series branched out to far the past few years going to places like Mercer and Atomic and you saw their drivers/team numbers go down. Think they would be better served traveling closer for the teams sake especially since the purse/to win prize isn't better than when they race at Attica/Fremont. They are already venturing to Sharon twice this coming year which was just announced as part of Sharon's adding more 410 races this year.

                            Would be nice if FAST (or FOD however you want to call them now) would try and make it easier for the locals by having races at Wayne County (which we know won't happen since they are direct competition for local Saturday night 410 racing), or Waynesfield, or Lima, or Mansfield, or even Millstream to keep them somewhat local 4-5 times a year and when Attica/Fremont aren't running the 410's.

                            Just not sure the OSCS will survive especially (if keeping the southern part of Ohio) with Atomic picking the 410's back up and having them quite a bit at their place. Asking guys from the southern part of the state to travel 3-4 hours is quite a bit for local teams. Doing it a couple times a year might not be bad, but asking them to do it more than that results in not many guys following the entire series. The OSCS didn't have a lot of cars follow them last year and probably because of all the traveling north to places like Attica/Fremont/Wayne County so much.

                            I personally like the old FAST where it was all about Attica/Fremont and helping those local teams with an extra point fund and more prize money/contingency's. I think in some way they would be better off going back to that and allowing their teams when Attica/Fremont aren't running to venture out to whatever tracks they want that weekend, but we know we have to keep them drivers/teams cattle them in or they might find out that other tracks are team friendly as well.

                            Think the more little series in Ohio will just keep hurting the local tracks that try and keep 410 racing local every weekend instead of becoming a special event type of racing. Also it hurts the teams/drivers because they have to do a lot more traveling which in turn means spending a lot more money and wear and tear on equipment, possibly staying overnight, etc... and not a bigger purse/prize money while doing all this extra traveling and not that big of a point fund that hasn't went up with the extra traveling.
                            They branched out b/c the teams asked to and they know they will at least get the attica/fremont type purse when traveling to these other tracks.

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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by Jay72c View Post

                              They branched out b/c the teams asked to and they know they will at least get the attica/fremont type purse when traveling to these other tracks.
                              Understand that point, but since branching out the drivers/teams list has went down. I believe last year they only had 10-11 drivers/teams run the series.

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