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  • 2018 All-Stars (ASCoC) News/Results

    http://www.allstarsprint.com/downloa....aspx?i=419323 <For the full version please follow this link, I'm going to hit what I believe are the high points.

    -Florida races will NOT be points races.
    -Florida races will have a $10k point fund for series members only (so like a speedweek fund) to entice members to come
    -Tiered towing package 1-5 $300, 6-10 $250, 11-12 $200, 13+ $100
    -Top 5 ASCoC drivers in the feature will receive an additional $100 in tow money for the event.
    -Purse: 1st $50k, 2nd $35k, 3rd $25k, 4th $20k, 5th $15, 6th $10k, 7th $9k, 8th $7.5k, 9th $6k, 10th $5k (decreases by $500 through position 15)
    -Format changes: Two fastest qualifiers who don't transfer through heat will start in positions 1 and 2 in the B main. The rest of the B/C/D mains will be lined up by heat race finish!!!!

    MY THOUGHTS
    Holy sh*t the one format change I thought they needed to do they did. I never even thought about locking in the fastest qualifiers to the front row of the B but that is SUCH a better idea then locking into dash. Make them race to get in if they wad it up in heat. Lining up by heat race finish will make the battles in the back of the pack really truly mean something. Secondly, awesome decision to take the ASCoC FL sanctioned races back off of points and instead offer an enticing point fund for series drivers to entice them to come if they so choose. Finally, the purse is much improved IMO and I really like the extra tow money based on finish position, rewarding drivers who have a good night.

    What's everybody elses thoughts. Again PLEASE click and read the link. There is quite a bit of info I didn't include, just what I felt was the most pertinent information.

    2019 Race Counter: 0

  • #2
    I'm hearing the ASCoC Schedule will be released Friday Nov, 17th. There are some new tracks. Speedweek 9 nights at 9 different tracks.
    2019 Racin' Chasin' Counter: Starts Jan, 31st, 2019
    2018 Racin' Chasin' Counter:
    50 Races @ 31 Tracks; (12-Rain Outs)
    2017 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 57 Races @ 30 Tracks; (7-Rain Outs)
    2016 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 59 Races @ 28 Tracks; (15-Rain Outs)
    2015 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 56 Races @ 25 Tracks; (12-Rain Outs)

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    • #3
      Woohoo!!! Wonder why both All Stars and WoO are announcing schedules a bit earlier this year?
      2019 Race Counter: 0

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      • #4
        Seen Steph Linder tweet that Shane Helms is promoting 3 All Star shows at MillStream next year.
        2018 RACE COUNTER: 49

        Volusia - 3, Attica - 12, Atomic - 4, Wayne County - 10, Mansfield - 3, Hilltop - 1, Waynesfield - 3, Eldora - 6, Sharon - 2, Thunder Mountain - 1, Fremont - 2, Montpelier - 2

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        • #5
          55 Dates 37 Tracks, 9 States
          2019 Racin' Chasin' Counter: Starts Jan, 31st, 2019
          2018 Racin' Chasin' Counter:
          50 Races @ 31 Tracks; (12-Rain Outs)
          2017 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 57 Races @ 30 Tracks; (7-Rain Outs)
          2016 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 59 Races @ 28 Tracks; (15-Rain Outs)
          2015 Racin' Chasin' Counter: 56 Races @ 25 Tracks; (12-Rain Outs)

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          • #6
            Wow, no Mansfield? Seemed like they were getting it together, and the track provided some good racing. Have a feeling a certain someone is involved with the track.
            2018 RACE COUNTER: 49

            Volusia - 3, Attica - 12, Atomic - 4, Wayne County - 10, Mansfield - 3, Hilltop - 1, Waynesfield - 3, Eldora - 6, Sharon - 2, Thunder Mountain - 1, Fremont - 2, Montpelier - 2

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            • #7
              Hm odd Mansfield isn't on there. Thought for sure with 9 speedweek dates they'd have a race...
              2019 Race Counter: 0

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              • #8
                That sucks for Mansfield gotta be either Tony don't like the big races competing with Eldora or a farmer is in the area messing up the crops.

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by DERF View Post
                  That sucks for Mansfield gotta be either Tony don't like the big races competing with Eldora or a farmer is in the area messing up the crops.
                  The latter is what I was thinking.
                  2018 RACE COUNTER: 49

                  Volusia - 3, Attica - 12, Atomic - 4, Wayne County - 10, Mansfield - 3, Hilltop - 1, Waynesfield - 3, Eldora - 6, Sharon - 2, Thunder Mountain - 1, Fremont - 2, Montpelier - 2

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Ross View Post
                    I'm hearing the ASCoC Schedule will be released Friday Nov, 17th. There are some new tracks. Speedweek 9 nights at 9 different tracks.
                    Guess the All-Stars are going to Knoxville. I understand why they are going there, but seems way, way to far for a local area series.

                    Wish the All-Star would cut it back to about 5 states (OH, PA, MI, IN, FL) and think they would get more higher quality cars to follow the series especially if the point fund would increase like it probably should at this point. In my opinion going to New York, Wisconsin and Illinois seems to far or out of the All-Star reach and stretches teams pretty think especially with a lot of extra traveling.

                    Also wish/hope the Florida points don't count which I think would help some teams that don't/can't travel to Florida in February for basically two weeks.

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                    • #11
                      The non racing savvy people who run the ASCOC are more interested in the “ Brand “ than the financial welfare of the teams, as illustrated by the $ 5000 to win and a grand for tenth that they have not improved upon in well over 20 years, as well as the anemic points fund ( including the hilarious Speedweek points money ). It is what it is, and there are always new teams willing to give it a whirl for a season or two before going by the wayside and returning to their previous tracks or series. Personally, I find weekly shows to be just entertaining most of the time.

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by Muddy99 View Post
                        The non racing savvy people who run the ASCOC are more interested in the “ Brand “ than the financial welfare of the teams, as illustrated by the $ 5000 to win and a grand for tenth that they have not improved upon in well over 20 years, as well as the anemic points fund ( including the hilarious Speedweek points money ). It is what it is, and there are always new teams willing to give it a whirl for a season or two before going by the wayside and returning to their previous tracks or series. Personally, I find weekly shows to be just entertaining most of the time.
                        I always see fans taking shots at the All-Star money which yes it hasn't changed much in the last 20 years, but either has many other series or even tracks. Once again it is the second best purse, second best to win, and the second best point fund in 410 winged sprint car racing series.

                        Heck we still see tracks and series running for 1,500 to win for a 410 winged sprint car ... if you want a little throwback to the past.

                        Some of the positives that you might not agree with obliviously, but it was worse just a few years ago. They have brought back a guaranteed point fund, a guaranteed point fund for speedweek, they have gotten the top 15 a traveling tow money package, and brought a lot of contingency sponsors into the deal as well. They have also got a lot of tracks to add a bigger purse to their events and gotten fans to attend them.

                        The issue is ... money ... tracks can easily raise the purse of any series that attends, but usually fails to do so and uses the minimum that the All-Stars will allow you to run. That is why we also don't see a lot of 2-day shows anymore either. Most Ohio dirt tracks aren't getting rich or investing in their facilities to help bring in bigger crowds, series, etc... Tracks are afraid of raising the ticket prices because that is what help pays the purse and when you raise the ticket prices the fans who "*****" about purses or to win prize doesn't go up will then likely ***** about the ticket prices going up and not attend as frequently.

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                        • #13
                          Originally posted by ErocWolverine View Post

                          I always see fans taking shots at the All-Star money which yes it hasn't changed much in the last 20 years, but either has many other series or even tracks. Once again it is the second best purse, second best to win, and the second best point fund in 410 winged sprint car racing series.

                          Heck we still see tracks and series running for 1,500 to win for a 410 winged sprint car ... if you want a little throwback to the past.

                          Some of the positives that you might not agree with obliviously, but it was worse just a few years ago. They have brought back a guaranteed point fund, a guaranteed point fund for speedweek, they have gotten the top 15 a traveling tow money package, and brought a lot of contingency sponsors into the deal as well. They have also got a lot of tracks to add a bigger purse to their events and gotten fans to attend them.

                          The issue is ... money ... tracks can easily raise the purse of any series that attends, but usually fails to do so and uses the minimum that the All-Stars will allow you to run. That is why we also don't see a lot of 2-day shows anymore either. Most Ohio dirt tracks aren't getting rich or investing in their facilities to help bring in bigger crowds, series, etc... Tracks are afraid of raising the ticket prices because that is what help pays the purse and when you raise the ticket prices the fans who "*****" about purses or to win prize doesn't go up will then likely ***** about the ticket prices going up and not attend as frequently.
                          Exactly......... this same guy will complain about having to pay $20 to get in the gate too...........

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                          • #14
                            I think DERF has something to ponder.

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                            • #15
                              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont_Speedway

                              I like the 1st sentence of this Wikipedia description

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