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  • #31
    Yes the figure was including all.

    Plus the sanction then dictates how you run the show which ties the promoters hands if they have different ideas on the event.

    How many of you posting here have actually attended in person the races at Mansfield?

    Dont count the ones who keep saying they will go but never do.

    Just curious.

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    • #32
      I've been to the first race, and the all star rain out, and sat down just in time to here the first try at the second triple crown race rain out. Didn't make it back for the Lucas Oil show although it sounded good, also couldn't make the Sunday show due to school the following day back in Dayton. But I've enjoyed it everytime I've been there, even the 3 hr wait the first night but the racing was worth it.
      2018 Race Counter: 2
      Atomic (1), Attica (1)

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      • #33
        I haven't posted on the particular Mansfield thread but I have on some previous threads. Only shows I've missed were the All Star race (had previous family plans) and the 4 cylinder race for the fair. I've enjoyed every race I've been there for. First night was long and drawn out but racing was good. Lucas Oil show was excellent even though the car count was less than I had hoped. Last Triple Crown night was some of the best racing that I've seen in all 3 divisions. Obviously people talk about the Rico, Macedo, and Bayston show and the Schlenk/Miley show but Tyler Gunn was a BLAST to watch ripping the high side in the non wing A-main.

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        • #34
          I could care less if the race is sanctioned or not. But I want to see the track do good and have more races in the future. Putting up this kind of money could easily bankrupt a racetrack. So to make money or to break even you have to have a large crowd. The best way to get a large crowd is to have names to draw people in. People do come to see the outlaw drivers, and the WoO name itself draws several people. That's why I say that it has to be a sanctioned race. Otherwise you lose those people and lose a large portion of your income.

          As for start money, it should be comparable to the winners purse. Paying $100,000 to win and $100 to start isn't going to bring racers in. Especially for a 2 day show that only has one payout (the press release mentioned that Friday was all the prelims and saturday were the mains).

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          • #35
            The Historical Big One was always a non-sanctioned race if I remember right. Earl could pull it off. He was a very powerful man in racing. It will be interesting to see if someone else can. I also believe the purse for the HBO was very, very top heavy.

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            • #36
              I was there for the opener, the soup bowl, and the tornado. Going this Friday and Saturday weather permitting.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by mudinmybeer View Post
                I was there for the opener, the soup bowl, and the tornado. Going this Friday and Saturday weather permitting.
                That tornado was shaping up to be a hell of a feature too!
                2018 Race Counter: 2
                Atomic (1), Attica (1)

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Sprintcarfanatic View Post
                  Look at was happened to some shows that became sanctioned. Some lost their luster or no show at all. Car counts went down because the small guy knows that the big guy will be there. BTW wouldn't there have been a race tonight in Oskaloosa. If you are so keen on having it sanctioned then pay back in the b & c & not give all the money to those that start.

                  Also remember that the big sanctions have corporate sponsors where the little guy might be footin the bill. Not everyone has Bill's Garage or Sap Suckers Pub anymore.

                  The Mopar Million payed 10,000 to start, why, wasn't 200,000. 150,000 & 125,000 enough for the top 3. I said this before & someone spoke up & said it wasn't charity, well go ahead then & keep the smaller teams home.

                  A big money show this early in the season. WOW. The WOO could drop the dipshit rule for this race unless it actually interferes with the next show, simple as that.
                  What sanctioned track lust it's luster? What car counts have went down? The Doty race is still one of the highest car counts of the year. The Kings Royal had 60 cars and that is after 2 nights of racing already.

                  The Kings Royal does pay back in the C and B-mains.

                  Originally posted by Blaniac1 View Post
                  The Historical Big One was always a non-sanctioned race if I remember right. Earl could pull it off. He was a very powerful man in racing. It will be interesting to see if someone else can. I also believe the purse for the HBO was very, very top heavy.
                  Well the HBO is no longer running either even with Earl having it. Several reasons why (IMO) such as to close to Knoxville (believe it use to be the week before) and also not that far after the King's Royal so the crowd started going down each year it ran them.

                  Earl was very powerful in the sprint car world because he helped the WoO get started by having them at his track many times (I believe 9-10 times the first year) and he also had a say on who else could have a WoO race in Ohio for quite along time too.

                  Remember this about the HBO ... yes the Saturday show was non-sanctioned, BUT they had USAC there on Wednesday night, All-Stars Thursday night, and WoO's on Friday night ... so they had everybody there already.

                  Most here want Mansfield to be successful and have a event that last a very long time ... not just last 3-4 years and seeing the crowds go down along with the car counts.

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                  • #39
                    Very intriguing and unique way to build up a purse. I like that there is still a set purse but it makes the event what people put into it. I wasn't old enough to recall the days where purses were set off the gate but reminds me of that philosophy but less suscepitble to deception. Seems like this will be a really cool event for everyone. I might have to go watch a lucas oil show again!
                    THE “DIRT MILLION” SLATED FOR 2018 AT MANSFIELD MOTOR SPEEDWAY

                    Super Late Models will compete for the sport’s largest winning prize in inaugural mega-event August 24th & 25th, 2018
                    MANSFIELD, Ohio — The Super Late Model division will have a new mega-event next year with the introduction of the “Dirt Million” on Aug. 24-25, 2018, at Mansfield Motor Speedway, track promoter Cody Sommer announced.
                    Super Late Model drivers will compete for a minimum of $100,000 to win and $2,000 to start in the inaugural Dirt Million at the 4/10-mile oval, but the purse will continue to increase throughout the 2018 calendar year via a unique format and promotion that allows dirt racing families, friends, sponsors, fans and teams everywhere in the world to play a role in building the feature’s payoff. The total purse for the event can climb to a spectacular $1 million, which would result in the weekend’s A-main offering a $500,000 winner’s prize and $10,000 just to take the green flag. Under a unique format, the Dirt Million will be a part of the 2018 Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series schedule.
                    The Dirt Million becomes the latest addition to Sommer’s growing promotional resume, which also includes the VP Racing Fuels Gateway Dirt Nationals held in the Dome at America’s Center in downtown St Louis, Mo., and the $100,000-to-win Sprint Car World Championship set for April 27-28, 2018, at Mansfield. This year Sommer spearheaded the transformation of Mansfield Motor Speedway from an asphalt track that hosted crowds of over 20,000 fans for NASCAR Truck Series races to a world-class dirt facility by presenting several special events, including a Lucas Oil Late Model Dirt Series program in July.
                    Sommer sees the creation of the Dirt Million and its unprecedented purse-building setup as possibly being a snapshot into the future of the sport.
                    “We live in a world today where individual people are more social, expressive and impactful than ever before,” Sommer said. “This event is catered to that fact and it will be very rewarding to watch the sport rally together, unified with one common goal.
                    “This event is truly one that rewards individuals for showing their support and getting behind something — literally the more it escalates the more it helps everyone, especially how it gives back to the racer.”
                    Sommer has billed the Dirt Million as an event “for the racers, by the fans.” He said virtually every aspect of the blockbuster will have a contributing element.
                    For starters, every driver registering for the event will become part of the event’s contribution system through a profile page at DirtMillion.com. Anyone who decides to support the race — by buying an event ticket, event merchandise, making a cash contribution directly to the purse or even paying a driver’s entry fee or pit pass — can specify the driver in whose name they’re contributing; the drivers who receive the most support will be in line for event benefits, including possible provisional starting spots for the headliner.
                    In addition, a portion of every ticket, camping reservation, VIP suite and pay-per-view video package sold will go directly to the growing purse, making the payoff ever-more lucrative. Simply stated, the more fans that attend the Dirt Million, the bigger the purse will be, providing incentive for drivers and teams to promote, endorse and support the event because their own fans’ investment in purchasing a ticket will help them as racers directly.
                    “If I was to explain this in the simplest way possible to a racer right in front of me, it’s this: The more you yourself, sponsors and fans support this event, the more money you are going to be able to race for,” Sommer said. “What is extremely ironic and not normal at all is that I am essentially putting a rev-limiter on the promoter side. There are plenty of events where a promoter packs the place and walks out with substantially more money than the guy that won the race, and the bottom line is this event is just not one of those events and it is not going to be through its design.”
                    Sommer said the guaranteed $100,000-to-win/$2,000-to-start purse totals $200,000 but the final payoff come race day will rise even higher. Each position in the 28-car field will increase by a corresponding percentage of the financial contributions that accumulate for the event, meaning that for every dollar contributed 50 percent will be added to the winner’s payoff; 10 percent to second place; 5 percent to third place; 3 percent to fourth place; 2 percent to fifth place; and downward to 1 percent for last place.
                    “So let’s say a fan says, ‘Man this is cool, I want to donate $5 to this,’” Sommer said. “They know that $2.50 (50%) of that $5 is going to the winner of that race and 1% is going to the guy that started the race. It’s the same for contributions of $10, $100 or whatever.”
                    If an additional $350,000 is raised, the purse would grow to $275,000 to win, $55,000 for second, $27,500 for third and down to $5,500 to start. If enough money is generated to reach the full $1 million payout goal, the $500,000 going to the race winner would be followed by such payouts as $100,000 for second, $50,000 for third and $10,000 to start the main event.
                    In the coming months additional details for the event will be released. Also soon to come will be the launch of DirtMillion.com, which will be the hub for the sport to watch the event’s purse grow in real time and include the registered driver profile pages amongst many other unique features.
                    Dirt Million event management is encouraging all fans and teams to follow their social pages on Twitter @DirtMillion and Facebook.com/DirtMillion. The event website will be launched soon at www.DirtMillion.com.


                    2018 Race Counter: 2
                    Atomic (1), Attica (1)

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                    • #40
                      Im glad Mansfield is only 1 hour and half away. Going to be a very interesting 2018.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by mudinmybeer View Post
                        Im glad Mansfield is only 1 hour and half away. Going to be a very interesting 2018.
                        I'm glad it's 20 minute away from home
                        2018 Race Counter: 2
                        Atomic (1), Attica (1)

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                        • #42
                          So ... he is putting up 200,000 and hoping the fans put the rest of the purse in it?

                          The World 100 is two weeks after this event ... the late models are running for a lot of big shows in a short amount of time.

                          The one thing I am curious about is how will all the drivers, owners, fans know on the day of the event or even right before the A-Main what the purse will be because as the articles stats a "portion" of the ticket sales, merchandise, and pay per view money will go towards the purse. Well in most cases a lot of fans don't pay for a event until the day of the event a lot of times. A lot of fans don't buy a t-shirt/hat until the day of the event, and a lot of fans don't buy the pay per view option until minutes/hours before the program.

                          Unique concept that is for sure.

                          Like others have said ... will be very interesting to see how things play out in 2018 ... lets hope for good weather and good track conditions.

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                          • #43
                            Wow - this promoter certainly doesn't believe in the " K.I.S.S." method. I'll pass on that event, but for those that understand the not-so- simple formula, have a good time.

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                            • #44
                              100,000 to win 2,000 to start. If you stop right there it gives teams, drivers and fans a reason to show up. Anything else is icing on the cake. If he gets fans involved and makes it interactive leading up and gives drivers incentives, that only adds to the fun. Do you remember how much fun the build up was to Indy Indoors? I know the racing was not great but these guys know how to promote and get people talking.

                              In my opinion it is how you look at it.. It's a 100k to win race that could build to 500k to win. Not a 500k to win race that could shrink to 100k to win.

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                              • #45
                                Cody never approached the Outlaws about this possibly being sanctioned race or against WoO schedule. Should be interesting........
                                Last edited by dzirzow; November 29th, 2017, 12:49 PM.

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